under the radar

Joined

• started 21 topics
• posted 944 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by under the radar

• 
  8

  Strange Goings On at a Biker Bar (A True Memoir)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  strange goings on at a biker bar (a true memoir).

  you’re going to disagree with me, but when you do, you’ll be wrong.

  i was raised to be a sissy.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  Alright, alright! Don't tease the hungry lions! On with the story!
• 
  3

  Help !!! ... I'm suffering from;

  by Tallon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  If you were on the Governing Body's Writing Committee, I would say, "Eat a bunch of prunes. You'll be pushing out hot steaming piles of spiritual food in no time."
• 
  11

  Idiotic elder training video

  by CookieMonster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i stumbled across this the other day, please excuse me if it has already been posted.

  don't know what you think but i found this idiotic, casting stereotypes and dangerous.

  so the scenario goes something like this, young brother finds himself in the company of a young lady at a bar.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  The elders didn't even ask if he'd had himself checked for STDs, completely ignoring the possibility that he may suffer life-long consequences if he doesn't get treatment right away. He is an adult, though, so maybe they figured if he's old enough to pick up a woman in a bar, he's old enough to look after himself.

  Worse, far worse in my book, is that they show no concern whatsoever for this new life he (may have) created. Whatever the circumstances, they should have reminded him of his responsibility to provide for this child, if proven to be his. Then they could have addressed the religious aspect.

  Here's what I think they should have said, in this order, when he first came to them:

  (1) If this really is your child, you have an absolutely responsibility to provide for it the best you can.

  (2) Get yourself checked out right away to make sure you're ok, and get treatment if it's needed.

  (3) Now, about your conduct...
• 
  40

  NEWS 5 INVESTIGATES: Sex offender going door-to-door

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.

  by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.

  colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  Where is Joe Kenda when you need him?
• 
  40

  NEWS 5 INVESTIGATES: Sex offender going door-to-door

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.

  by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.

  colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  Does anybody know for certain whether he was a JW when he molested his stepdaughter?

  Even more important, in my opinion, is how the heck did he only serve a year or less of a 10 year sentence for molesting a minor he was supposed to protect?

  There may be more to this story that we've heard so far...
• 
  49

  Sharia Law in the US, it's coming folks.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my question, why would one immigrate to the west and refuse to adopt the western cultural?.

  if you believe our way of life is so degenerated why bring your family to this place.. in a very close 5-4 vote, the city of irving ruled to back the texas state bill banning foreign.

  law from the state.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  No religious or cultural group should be allowed to have their own legal system or exclusively police themselves. There must be one set of laws for all citizens and legal residents, and here in the US, that must be the civil laws enshrined or backed by the Constitution.

  I don't think anyone cares if those of similar backgrounds choose to live near each other and associate mostly with those they identify with. But no group, religious, cultural, or otherwise, should be allowed to establish exclusive enclaves where their own set of rules applies and where the civil authorities, including the police, fear to tread.

  I have heard of such areas in London and Paris where Islam and Sharia Law reign supreme, though their existence is officially denied. I know for a fact that there are areas in and around New York City where certain sects of Jews run their own neighborhoods and the police simply let them. Even reports of child abuse by certain of their leaders are covered up and the people are warned not to talk about such things to outsiders.

  A recent reality TV show revealed that certain Romanian gypsy bands forbid education to their daughters and marry them off to each other as young as possible. Certain outlying Mormon groups openly practice polygamy and the local governments turn blind eye while they intentionally become a drag on society by having as many children as possible and expecting the welfare agencies to support them.

  The US Constitution forbids any laws respecting the establishment of any religion. I hold that giving any religion special privileges like running their own show in their own communities and policing themselves IS the de facto establishment of that religion. So is giving religious organizations special tax treatment, but that's another topic.

  The US government need to make it abundantly clear that while people are free to congregate and live near and among whomever they want, there is one set of laws that applies to everybody. No one can be allowed to impose their religious or cultural laws, superstitions, practices, or taboos on anyone else. Saying something is required or justified by one's religious belief is no get-out-of-jail free card. If it's a crime, it's a crime. End of story.

  This position needs to be even more stringently enforced when we're talking about someone who wants to enter this country, whether to live or even just to visit. Each one must be individually screened and vetted to determine if they truly want to embrace American culture and the freedom of the individual and live under our laws. They must not be allowed to enter if they want to bring their misogynous, hateful, bigoted religious or cultural beliefs and superstitions with them and impose them on others, including family members. They must prove that they totally reject jihad and any other form of terrorism or coercion to force others to believe as they do. If they don't want to live under the freedom that our laws guarantee them, and extend that same freedom to others, including females and other individuals typically oppressed by organized religion and tribal cultures, then they must not be allowed to enter and spread their filthy bile here.

  We are supposed to all live under the temporal civil laws backed by the Constitution, not laws based on religious superstition and tradition. I hope that never changes.
• 
  26

  Off On A Trip - But Little Enthusiam

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  never was a jw, but been here a long time.. off on a trip in a week or so, uk to andorra to stay with a friend for 10 days or so (beautiful place) then a week or so wending through france back home.. did the same trip the last couple of years -it was wonderful.

  met some lovely people, including an ex-polce woman over coffees and calvados after dinner.. but ... i don't feel so enthusiastic about this trip.

  i'll visit the cathar sites and other places.. maybe- just maybe - i've come to the conclusion that these trips are not as much fun if you don't have a companion to share it with..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  Joe Grundy, that's a breathtakingly generous offer. I hope you find a delightful traveling companion or two. And who knows? This trip could create wonderful memories and lifelong friendships. I believe joy, like love, is multiplied when it's shared. Good karma is headed your way, I'm sure.

  My hat's off to you, Sir. Safe travels.
• 
  21

  Openly converting to another religion but not disfellowshipped

  by R Franz Ferdinand III in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  odd.... friends of mine recently became members of an evangelical church.. up until they got baptised in this church, they still were visiting the jw meetings on a regular basis.they weren't really fading in the true sense of the word.. they came out of the closet about their new conviction quite publicly and even didn't shy away from getting in debate with the elders on biblical topics.. the elders are obviously very aware about their position and as they still were attending the meetings not so long ago, they clearly can be considered as people associated with the jw organisation.. as far as i know it seems they won't get disfellowshipped.

  as long my friends don't harrass fellow witnesses with their 'renegade ideas' and 'false religion', elders seem to comply and leave things as they are.. this puzzles me as defecting to babylon the great always has been one the most worst offenses a jw could possibly commit.. could this be a case of local elders interpreting/applying things their own way or is there a (new) general policy trending ?.

  anyone who knows about similar cases ?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  According to the Flocking the Sheep book, they won't be disfellowshipped but will be considered to have disassociated themselves, a distinction without a difference. Same announcement ("So-and-so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses") and same treatment from the faithful (shunning). Of course, some will assume they have joined some sex orgy club, or worse, but the elders are not supposed to comment further, even to clear up scandalous rumors.
• 
  17

  JW over-rode our Choice of Funeral music

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few years on and the funeral of my jw momma still galls me.

  she left instructions for which kingdom songs to be sung and we gladly abided by her wishes.

  the funeral was held in a public crematorium, not a kingdom hall.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  Where does the "preacher" get off overriding the family's wishes? I wonder if there other JW family members who sided with the "preacher." Still presumptuous to do so, regardless.
• 
  19

  Help Me Regain Contact With My Still In Family

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  situation is, i'll never return to the wt.

  my family with never leave the wt.. depending on who you ask you'll get the following answers when you ask about me:.

  my family: he's confused.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  under the radar

  If you allow your mother to spend time alone with your daughter, she WILL try to indoctrinate her, perhaps in small doses at first, and WILL paint you in a bad light. "Don't you wish Daddy (or Mommy) would come back to Jehovah so you all can live forever in Paradise and pet lions every day?"